The Emerging Unified Church of Carlisle
Overview of Open Congregational Meeting
November 18, 2012
The third of three scheduled Open
Congregational Meetings this fall was conducted on Sunday, November 18, 2012,
at Allison U.M.C. The meeting was attended
by thirty-nine members.
Pastor Jim stated that some of the Focus
Groups are beginning to wind down as others are just starting their work. His biggest joy has been working together
with so many good folks from our three churches. His greatest fear is that he will be unable
to get us excited about the vision of our new church. Likening the situation to Moses, he asked,
“How do you get people excited about a land that they have never seen?”
Listed below are some of the questions
and comments raised during the meeting.
1.
Comment: “I was amazed and dismayed that I could have
voted several times.” Response: “We have
to trust people. This is all about
trust.” No one indicated that they had
seen any voting irregularities.
2.
Question: “What kind of administrative structure?” Response:
Randy Noaker explained the recommendation to create a Leadership Council
which is like a board of directors. The
details of the “LC” are covered in the 11/8/12 Transition Team Overview.
3.
Question:
“Is this form of organization OK with the Discipline?” Response: Yes, our
Conference is encouraging this structure.
4.
Question:
“Will the LC hire the staff or will it be the personnel person on the LC?”
Response: the Leadership Council will do the hiring.
5.
Question:
“Will the LC be appointed or elected?” Response: elected by each church’s
charge conference. (A later questioner asked how each church will be sure to get
its three members on the initial LC.
These three members will be determined at each church’s charge
conference.)
6.
Question:
“How often will the LC meet?” Response: monthly year-round.
7.
Question:
“Will each church actually have two charge conferences.” Response: yes. One to approve the Plan of Union which gives
our new church the authority to establish the LC. The second will be each church’s charge
conference to elect its three members to the LC.
8.
Question:
“Will we get the Plan of Union in advance.” Response: no, initially. However, Pastor Jim promised to take the
request to have the Plan of Union in advance to the Transition Team.
9.
Request:
an update from the Site Location Focus Group.
Response: Earl Keller, SLFC chair,
explained that they will be meeting with four realtors to explore available
properties. They have developed criteria and will rate all potential sites. In response to the query about possible
donated land, Earl informed us that that offer has been withdrawn by the
owner.
10. Note: Any decision on a new site must be made by
the new church. The new church doesn’t
exist yet. That’s why it is so important
that we organize and that starts with the approval of the Plan of Union. We cannot make a decision before the new
church has been incorporated.
11. Question: “What
is the date for the decision on a new site?”
Response: Imagine listed the
date as 2015-16. The Plan of Union uses
the language “by” so that there is flexibility to approve a new site if one
becomes available between the time of incorporation and the deadline for
deciding on a permanent site.
12. Question: “Is
there a Plan B in case the Plan of Union is not approved.” Response: no,
because those who have studied it think it is best.
13. Question: “Can
members of the Transition Team be on the Leadership Council.” Response: yes.
14. Question: “Could
the site of a new church building be outside the borough of Carlisle?”
Response: yes, but it would have a Carlisle address. There are few sites, if any, of 12-15 acres
of land available in the borough.
15. Question: “What
about finances for 2013 and contributing to a new church site?” Responses: Jeff
Harpel and Jay Layman. The three
churches have been asked to budget like they have done in the past. 2013 will be our baseline. The legal details about contributing to a new
church site have to include language in case a new building would not be
erected within a specified amount of time.
These monies are regulated by the Stewardship Foundation operated by our
Conference. It was expressed that we
must have a legal out stipulated for these monies.
16. Question: “Is
there to be a vote to build a new building.”
Response: yes.
Before ending this meeting with prayer
at 6:11 pm Pastor Jim said, “If I offended anyone, I apologize. I’ll be glad
when the anxiousness is over. Once we
can see what we are planning, we will get excited.”
Our churches’ charge conferences will be on Sunday,
December 9, 2012.
Further details will be announced.